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« on: February 25, 2013, 04:21:44 AM »

Top end tele lenses and high quality TC's can sometimes produce pretty good results when it comes to a shot you wouldn't have gotten any other way.

I was cross-checking the DA*300 against a select few TC's this morning and this result with a PK/A Tokina EL 2X came as a pleasant surprise. A Tokina "RMC Doubler" was noticeably softer. It takes a bit of PP to correct for a noticeable loss of contrast, but sharpness isn't degraded much. The Tokina EL line of lenses was very good third party gear.



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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2013, 09:35:27 PM »

nice post ,  pacerr,   that's amazing detail in the hawk from such a distance.   
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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2013, 04:13:18 AM »

Another shot today with the DA*300+Tokina EL 2X at about 85 yds.


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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2013, 06:57:43 AM »

wow,  nice light and color and detail in this one too.    is this w/ the ' 5 ' ?   
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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2013, 03:57:52 AM »

Another shot today with the DA*300+Tokina EL 2X at about 85 yds.
Great detail Hank.
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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2013, 05:08:52 AM »

could he slip a cibarwhatever that plane is , between that spot and the deer , you think ?   
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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2013, 05:23:52 AM »

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. . . could he slip a cibarwhatever that plane is . . .

HUH?!  You talkin' 'bout the Citabria? Let's go try it. Bring your camrea.


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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2013, 07:12:07 AM »

If you'd just get out of your lounge chair and off the porch a bit, you wouldn't need to put that pop-bottle glass in front of that fine lens. This is sacralidge.
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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2013, 06:57:58 PM »

that is a nice looking little plane you have there.   
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« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2013, 10:02:01 PM »

Hank can really handle that little plane. Flying with him is fun and exciting.
By the way, Hank, a couple of Kokin filters stacked on the front end of that 300mm might be a good idea too.
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« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2013, 11:38:41 PM »

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. . . Kokin filters stacked on the front end of that 300mm might be a good idea too.

To what purpose?   I don't think they make an "ugly-butt" filter -- although it would be a big seller! Grin

The only two photographic filters that can't be replicated today with more versatility and precision in digital post processing are the PL and the ND filter which is actually used to change shutter speed in lieu of manipulating ISO or incident light.

And therein lies an interesting point -- every adjustment of the characteristics of an image (except the polarization of light) can be accomplished in PP except that which has to do with TIME.

A while back, someone on another forum commented that it was difficult for him pick a shutter speed that seemed 'simpatico' with a scenic image of a tree. It occurred to me that humans were lookin' at a stop watch while the tree was attentive to a sun dial and calendar of the seasons. Humans don't appear to have a biological sensory organ attuned to time. We need extrinsic tools to measure that experience in any meaningful way whether it be a calendar or a chronometer or a shutter speed dial. Strange, since we seem to be the only beings that can conceive of yesterdays and tomorrows.

Then there's video vs. still imaging: does an hour long video equate to a 60-minute shutter speed setting as a measure of time?





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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2013, 03:38:14 AM »

quote:  Quote from: Ron
. . . Kokin filters stacked on the front end of that 300mm might be a good idea too.

To what purpose?   I don't think they make an "ugly-butt" filter -- although it would be a big seller! Grin

The only two photographic filters that can't be replicated today with more versatility and precision in digital post processing are the PL and the ND filter which is actually used to change shutter speed in lieu of manipulating ISO or incident light.

And therein lies an interesting point -- every adjustment of the characteristics of an image (except the polarization of light) can be accomplished in PP except that which has to do with TIME.

A while back, someone on another forum commented that it was difficult for him pick a shutter speed that seemed 'simpatico' with a scenic image of a tree. It occurred to me that humans were lookin' at a stop watch while the tree was attentive to a sun dial and calendar of the seasons. Humans don't appear to have a biological sensory organ attuned to time. We need extrinsic tools to measure that experience in any meaningful way whether it be a calendar or a chronometer or a shutter speed dial. Strange, since we seem to be the only beings that can conceive of yesterdays and tomorrows.

Then there's video vs. still imaging: does an hour long video equate to a 60-minute shutter speed setting as a measure of time?  "end quote. 

this is very deep.


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« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2013, 05:01:49 AM »

Yes, it get pretty deep in here sometimes. Hard not to step in it.
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« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2013, 06:16:33 AM »

does pacerr think all this stuff up himself ,  ron ?     
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« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2013, 06:20:49 AM »

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. . . does pacerr think all this stuff up himself ,  ron ?     

I have to -- I don't know anyone else dumb enough to share this kind'a stuff with me!
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